wtb tv

[dyuman]

So my big screen downstairs went poof after about 10 years of good service. Going to be looking for a new TV and prolly get one during black friday (moving the lcd in my dads room down for the time being).

Haven't looked at TV's in a while so found some interesting things.

1. They got 120hz (120fps) lcd's now.

2. They also are doing a thing called 24p, which is basically 24fps progressive scan, but either causes the movie to be 120fps (5 frames repeat) or 48fps (2 frames repeat). Regular 60hz/fps gets wonky pushes and junk.

Anyhow, do any of you happen to know of any good tv's? My hope is the fighting game guys have some ideas since good reaction on frames is important.

[Pikachu]

Hmm, it's less of an issue for this generation of games because it had to do with the TV needing to convert the signal from the game system, which is more a fault of Xbox/PS2/Gamecube themselves. In terms of specific TV's, I don't know of any in particular that are bad/great. When we went shopping for our new TV a while back, most of the ones out there are at worst, decent (for a reasonable price), with a few hella good (for hella money). Most are just the 1080p, HD ready TV's now, so that should be good enough to allow your PS3 to show off.

[buhwhyen]

I think you're referring to frame refresh rates, but like Josh said, that wasn't the big problem for ps2, etc. The problem was the ps2 and other systems outputted video at 480 dpi (I think), and it had to be scaled up to 1080, or whatever the tv was running at. Previously it was done by software which had lag because of processing time. Then it was scaled by hardware, which theoretically had no lag, but when you're talking about games where 60 frames refresh every second and input times need to be within 5 or less frames the player can "feel" the lag. The PS3 shouldn't have this problem cause from what I remember, but you should confirm, the ps3 outputs at 1080.

The bigger question is LCD or plasma, but I think everyone here would rather go LCD over plasma.

[dyuman]

Yea I was leaning towards LCD (no burn in... alone is reason enough)

So ends up we're going to be waiting till the new years with the stock market being suck, of course, prices will go down and new tech will be shown off.

The new features TV's have lately are

1. 1080p (duh, gonna be getting that for sure)
2. 120hz refresh rate (supposedly most tv's are 48hz, computer monitors at 60hz): saw this on a blu ray playing demo at Fry's, it was jaw droppingly crisp, but supposedly makes movies look weird due to lack of motion blur and removal of area's out of focus.
3. 24p: Basically turns the tv into 24 frames progressive scan so movies look more like film


www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665532062

This is one I'm looking at right now. Fuckall expensive, but if we're buying 6 months down the road it should be a significant chunk off. Otherwise the other option is a good LG one.

[buhwhyen]

About 2 years ago I did some research on tvs, from what I remember most plasma tvs didn't have the burn in problem anymore (minus the cheap ass big screens). Overall, comparison tests done by sound and vision rated Sony TVs pretty low overall. I remember Vizio? Visio? or something like that being good. And 7k is like...too much for a TV.

[dyuman]

Yea, it is way too much. We're prolly gonna be going with 2k-3k range.