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Post by buhwhyen on Dec 14, 2007 21:24:44 GMT -5
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Post by Pikachu on Dec 15, 2007 2:31:25 GMT -5
First game is hilarious. Buppa playing like it's GGXX Slash.
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Post by buhwhyen on Dec 22, 2007 4:33:27 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL5B0YgCo_cThis Baiken player is quite good. Plays more defensively and selectively pressures when theres an opening. Take notice of the follow up to a connected j.s, j.p, j.k launcher. I guess using a crouching move, sweep/punch? makes the combo more reliable midscreen. Its probably pretty universal, though Testament is hella easy to combo. EDIT: Okay..so I watched the other 2 vids of Rakku (the baiken player) that were recently posted with the one above..and I guess he was just playing conservatively against Shounen cause he played hella aggressively in the other 2 games. Hella solid Baiken player that makes good use of -all- her counters. Though some of the combos in these 2 vids seem to be character dependent since they're on the 2 lightest characters in the game. www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl1v92yXjVgwww.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ypCmNmkk
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Post by buhwhyen on Dec 24, 2007 4:57:15 GMT -5
Pretty interesting blurb about the GG community after evo2k7, quoted from JChensor's blog(http://jchensor.blogspot.com/).
"And right now, no community needs to heed this more than the Guilty Gear community. After a couple of severe missteps at this past Evo, the Guilty Gear community will need to do some work to show that they are indeed worthy of the same respect afforded to many of the other Fighting Game communities. This is a challenge that they should be issuing to themselves, and it has nothing to do with what Evo thinks. Because, as I've mentioned with the Third Strike example, Evo will listen if you make some noise first.
The Guilty Gear community has a reputation of being, for lack of a better word, lazy. They do little for self-promotion. Most of the other communities have their celebrities and widely respected players. Their most staunch supporters fight very hard to make sure the game is respected and its popularity is increased, such as in the aforementioned tendency of Super Turbo players to give new players lots of high level strategies. But for some reason, the Guilty Gear community just doesn't seem like they care enough, so the game is never taken seriously. And this is a huge problem.
And it's not a matter of trying to get others to take them seriously. It's a matter of its own players not taking themselves seriously. This is a huge shame because Guilty Gear is such a good game, with great character variety, the need for a ton of technical skill, room for a huge amount of mind games, and really stylish visuals as well. And it's a shame even more so because the American players seem to be improving quite a bit in the past few years. This community deserves a ton of respect and this game should be far more popular than it is, so it can't afford to make any more missteps.
So what are these missteps? One misstep that occurred at Evo this past year still boggles my mind. At the end of the semis for Guilty Gear XX Accent Core, three of the four teams had already qualified for the Finals on Sunday and only two teams remained, needing to fight for the last Finals spot. And the two teams, which knew each other and were on good terms with each other, decided to take a break and leave the ballroom to go and rest and discuss... something, I dunno what, before playing their match. Maybe it's because I'm one of the tournament organizers, but this move is just inexcusable.
Okay, they did ask the person running the brackets if they could take the break and that person said yes, so they are entitled to their break. That much is not their fault. But the mere fact that the question was even asked is still crazy to me. I'm not sure how to express my dismay other than it just feels so unprofessional to me. Evo is run on a tight schedule and we are trying to do our best to make the event as professional and reputable as possible. No professional sport would ever let you delay the 4th quarter of a game because the players wanted a break or wanted to discuss things. Both teams were almost disqualified when we couldn't find them to play their final match after they were gone for over 10 minutes. We had to call the two teams on their cell phones numerous times before we finally got them back into the hall to play the last semis match. Even if I were in that position and wanted a break, I would make sure I'd be back in 5 minutes or remain close to the game area to be back at a moment's notice.
And yet, the other misstep was even bigger, and many people have already heard about this. For the Finals, there were 11 players total that filled up the final 4 teams (three players on each team and one team only had two players). When the first match was scheduled to start, only 4 players out of those 11 were physically there ready to play their match. 7 people were missing! Eventually they all showed up, but only after many, many, many phone calls and after delaying the start of the finals by over 30 minutes. The last player didn't even show up until just before the final match up, lucky that his team even made it that far.
Many use, as an excuse, the early start time of the finals (11:00 a.m.) as to why this happened. But one game took place even earlier (Virtua Fighter 5 was at 9:30 a.m.) and when I opened to doors at 9:30 to call in the top 8 players for Virtua Fighter 5, all 8 players were there and ready to go. So the early start time simply isn't a good enough of an excuse. Any Guilty Gear player even trying to make excuses for those who didn't show up is wasting his or her breath. The community should be apologizing for the players who didn't show up because, again, it just ends up being more evidence that the community doesn't take itself seriously enough.
To make matters worse, many hardcore Guilty Gear players didn't even show up to watch the Finals, even though they started 30 minutes late! And that, to me, is the biggest sin. Why? Because this year, American Guilty Gear players had their best showing. Four Japanese teams played in the tournament, and only two made it to the Finals. And then FlashMetroid's team (with pretty much 100% of the work being done by only two the team members: Alex G. and FlashMetroid himself) powered their way through the Finals, defeating one of the final two Japanese teams on Sunday to make history by being the first time the U.S. has scored 2nd place in a Guilty Gear tournament at Evo.
The. Place. Should. Have. Been. Rocking.
Guilty Gear is one of those games where it is just assumed that the Japanese have a distinct advantage over the American players, making it a foregone conclusion that a Japanese team would win Evo. In fact, most probably predicted the four Japanese teams would finish 1st through 4th. And there was no evidence that the American players were reaching a point where they could give the Japanese players a good challenge. But when FlashMetroid's team defeated BAS's team (filled with three very deadly Japanese players: BAS, Mint, and Kami-chan), a huge step forward was taken for American Guilty Gear players. Thus, the Guilty Gear community should have been there to not only witness it, but to cheer Flash's team on. The room should have been electric!! But instead, it was really subdued.
So what does this all add up to? Well, frankly, the Guilty Gear community has made lots of claims that Evo doesn't like them; that we don't take them seriously. It simply isn't true. Many people on the Evo staff like Guilty Gear a lot, and still play it or have played it before pretty enthusiastically. It's my second favorite Fighting Game right now, right after Super Turbo. No, the Guilty Gear community needs to take a look in the mirror and realize that they don't give anyone enough reason to take them seriously yet. I don't want to hear any more excuses from this community: no one is out to get you. There are a ton of players for this game, it's a great game... the formula is all there already. Now it's time for them to make sure their game gets represented properly.
So if your game is scheduled for 11:00 in the morning, you show up at 11:00 in the morning. I know I know... how can you expect people to show up for an 11:00 a.m. game in Vegas, right? And be loud? And be raucous? Well, guess what? The Tekken community did it at Evo 2006. And they were loud. And they were raucous. And the tournament was really exciting. And that's because their community is dedicated to their game."
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Post by Pikachu on Dec 26, 2007 4:10:31 GMT -5
Read that a while back. It was a little disheartening to hear that's how it went down. Oh well. At least it shows the American scene has a chance IF people get their shit together. I think it's a sign of better things to come rather than things getting worse, just because we have a US release of this game. These little things matter.
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Post by Duragar on Jan 4, 2008 13:36:47 GMT -5
To the forum silence: I must break you. To those trying to improve in GGAC: Look up Dave Sirlin. Whether you have or have not seen this man's work, you must read (or re-read) it. I'm just starting now, and am going to try and take his words to heart. Here's to making me a more competitive player. www.sirlin.net/ptw/PS - If you're trying to write (as I am), he also has some interesting articles on that subject as well, in addition to a large number of gaming articles. |
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Post by Pikachu on Jan 7, 2008 3:19:26 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to find the link, but somewhere on shoryuken's forums, there's a set of articles titled Domination 101. Classic reading for everyone, too.. predates Sirlin's work, but Sirlin contributed to this set of articles, too.
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Post by buhwhyen on Jan 17, 2008 20:38:03 GMT -5
I am in awe. www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0EwUNzMfMoGranted this dude probably used a programmable stick for most of these combos, but still impressive. Most notably...watch the last combo on Potemkin. Apparently Order Sol has an infinite. |
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Post by Pikachu on Jan 18, 2008 2:36:52 GMT -5
All the outstanding combo clips are good. Testament also has a pseudo tree infinite.
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Post by Pikachu on Feb 4, 2008 0:26:52 GMT -5
Been a while since a really good match has been posted like this, but after I watched the insanity, I had to share it with ya'll: youtube.com/watch?v=twbH5fNQUNAIt's FAB (Pot) vs. Kon Hige (Slayer), and I'll just tell you guys up front that there are some really insane combos that somehow never really occurs to most people, but when a player sees it, he'll just be like "DUH! Why did I never try to do it!?!?" Seriously some new B&B's for each character. EDIT - And after this one, check out this other match. Pay attention to Player 1's win streak. Then look at what the matchup is: youtube.com/watch?v=fjHcFNg6uZ0 |
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Post by buhwhyen on Feb 11, 2008 4:03:12 GMT -5
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Post by buhwhyen on Feb 17, 2008 15:05:38 GMT -5
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Post by Pikachu on Feb 17, 2008 20:56:18 GMT -5
Hey, it's nice to see some Eddie vids. I'm really having a hard time grasping why there are so few. Sure, I know people don't like his shit, but even for knowledge's sake, I'm surprised at how sparse they have been. Shachou's definitely not bad at all. Lots of basic stuff in there I didn't even think would work, like using far slash into K summon. Sigh.. this is why I want to watch more Eddie. Thanks for the posts mang.
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Post by buhwhyen on Feb 18, 2008 7:00:36 GMT -5
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Post by buhwhyen on Feb 26, 2008 14:42:43 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgDCsplVL4YCommentary is hilarious and so utterly useless. Hes just saying a lot of useless jibberish but its quite amusing to listen to - the matches aren't too bad either cause they're quite juvenile at times.
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